Jan. 20, 2026

Masterclass in Versatility.

Masterclass in Versatility.

My guest Mary Galligan is a shining example of how to blend strategy, career and community work. Her secret sauce is creativity and heart. Tune in Tuesday 1/13 at 9 EST to get real tips for your success. NEXT! is broadcast live Tuesdays at 9AM ET and...

My guest Mary Galligan is a shining example of how to blend strategy, career and community work.
Her secret sauce is creativity and heart. Tune in Tuesday 1/13 at 9 EST to get real tips for your success.

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Mary is got a really interesting career, which is why

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I invited her to the show. She has a long

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career with Johnson and Johnson and which we all know,

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the big pharmaceutical company, and she had a big job

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there driving corporate strategy. And after that she did some

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movie sets as well, and then she got deeply rooted

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into the community. One of the things that she did,

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which I always was sort of envious on, was she

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worked on a presidential campaign. We won't go into the

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details of that, but she worked on a presidential campaign,

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and then she was able to get her work that

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brought people together, raised money for great causes, and kept

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fun in the front and the center with live music

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and big community and energy and many of these events

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I participated in. And you know, when I got to

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know Mary better, I realized music and these kinds of

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things were always in her veins since college when she

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was actually a college DJ. And now Mary is very

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instrumental in working for Cape Fear Radio, which has become

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a huge powerhouse in this local Cape Fear community. And

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so throwing to have you Mary, how are you?

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Thank you?

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I'm great, good, good, Thank you so much for agreeing

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to doing this.

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Thank you for having me on.

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Yeah. Well, you know a couple of things that came

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to mind when I was I was thinking about you

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and thinking about guests. You know, you had this big

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corporate strategy job. I think you were in New Jersey, right,

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Jane Jays in jerseysy.

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Excuse me, based out of New Jersey, Yes.

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Based out it. But we went all over the world

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and did all sorts of stuff with medical equipment, and

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then things happened some out of your control and you retired.

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What was that like to retire from such a fast paced,

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intense I've been in those kinds of worlds. What was

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it like to retire from.

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That, so I bought all the books about retiring, and

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I never read them because I was so busy working.

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So I ended up in southeastern North Carolina at fifty

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seven with my husband and I have two adult children

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and they were not living here. So I got here

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and I just had no plan whatsoever. So I came

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into the community. I was used to working eighty hours

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a week, traveling all over and here I am in

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a quiet, sleepy, beautiful coastal town.

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And so I got dog.

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I've read many things, and then I went back to

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work because I really was bored. I had no plan,

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which was the problem for my next and so I

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went back to work for like two and a half

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years for a small Swedish medical company.

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Oh.

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I made sure when I agreed to do it that

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I picked cities that had live music, because music has

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always been a part of my life. So I covered Nashville, Memphis,

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Ashville and different select cities and then I would go

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work all day and then go listen to live music

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at night. And it was a great mix.

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I was just going to say, those cities, none of

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those cities are bad choices to be fun, right, did

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you meet any great people out there I did.

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I met a lot of great people through the company.

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It was a smaller company, so I had to adjust

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to not having all the structure of a Johnson and Johnson.

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But I learned a lot and it was great. And

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I could go out, like to the Rhymen and see

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Sheryl Crow because at night they might have, you know,

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single tickets out in all these different cities. I went

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to Graceland and of course that develops around music, so

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it was a fun time. Then I retired again and

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was looking for things to do.

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What made you retire from there? Sounded like it was

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a good gig.

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It was a good gig, but everybody else was retired

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and I wasn't. Yeah, and so I was on planes

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all the time out of a small coastal airport.

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You know, familiar with that airport. Yeah.

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I thought, well, it's time to retire again and find

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some things to do. But that time, this time, I

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was more prepared. I had looked around the community. I

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joined a couple of boards, and I've always been about

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giving back to the community and raising money, so I

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did a couple music events. We had a local band

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here who was brand new is a really great band.

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So we did a fundraiser and sold six hundred tickets

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for that. It was great fun. And then we brought

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in a group from Nashville for a fundraiser for two

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of our local nonprofits.

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And now how exciting was that. That was a lot

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of fun.

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It was great, and so then I started thinking more

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about music. And three of my friends had just started

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a radio station. They were in the preliminary stages, so

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they called me and I joined them. There were six

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of us to start. It's called Cape Fear Radio. It's

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a streaming station here in town. And we're hyper local,

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so we do sports, news, weather, all types of community events.

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And so I became very involved with it and learned

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a lot because I love to learn new things. So

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I've done all the social media. I ran a capital

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campaign and really got out in the community. And right

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now we've grown to over sixty volunteers. We're all volunteered,

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and we set ourselves up as a nonprofit and so

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we return money back to the community. And it's been

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a great learning experience and a ton of fun.

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Well, and you know, I have to say, Mary, I

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known you for quite a while, and yes, I knew

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when this started out and it was, like you said,

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three people, and now it's hard to go anywhere in

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this Cape Fear region, which by the way, for listeners

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is a relatively big region. And everybody knows about Cape

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Fear Radio. Everybody knows about it, and it's got such

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a diverse kind of canopy of things that it offers

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in terms of music and news and local sports and

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all that stuff. I think it's quite an accomplishment, quite

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an accomplishment. What did you learn from it? What do

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you love about it?

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Well, what I love is getting out in the community

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and reviewing people. So I've interviewed about forty five local

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community leaders and bands, and I love to go to

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live band events and you know, learn from the band

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as well as interview them and play their music. I

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also have two shows on the station. I have an independent, Alternative,

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Emerging and local music show on Thursday nights. We have

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specialty shows like jazz, you know, different types of things, Reggae,

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we have rhythm and blues. We have all types of things.

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But from seven to seven we have the Sound of

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the Station, which is music that the music team puts together.

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So I also have a morning show on Friday mornings,

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that I do, that's the sound of the station show.

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Well, and what is the sound of the station show?

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Say more about.

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Different music that's picked up by the music team. So

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when I do my own show, I can put whatever

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types of music I want into it. And when we

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have a sound of the station show, most of the

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music is picked by a large music team that we have.

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So it occurs to everybody.

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Oh cool, Hey do you have any k Do you

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have any K Pop on there?

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No? But the funniest thing is that, yeah, they're all

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different types of bands that are joining us. Music, yes, segments,

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but we also do news, weather, and sports, and it's

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all hyper local and we have great people doing that

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and that's a new addition to the station. So that

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is a lot of fun. And we've given money back

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to the community to different organizations. We're putting together a

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team to decide how that money is dispersed in which

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organizations we choose as a radio station. So I'm learning

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a lot there.

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I love that well, So I have to just tell

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this quick story. I knew Mary was doing some TV

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shots and you know, backups on movies, and I was like, oh,

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that's intriguing. I have to find out about that. But

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I went to a St. Patrick's Day party of in

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Wilmington and here is Mary with all her equipment interviewing

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people kind of I'm seeing the thing. I'm going, Wow,

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this is really cool. So how cool was that? You

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do that a lot? Now you let our parade for

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we have big parades in Southport, so.

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I love parades. I have to say, I love parades.

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And you looked great by the way, thank you.

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And so we've been for six years on this Wilmington

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Saint Patrick's Stay Parade Committee up in Wilmington and there's

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a small group of us that run that and it's

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one of the top parades in the country for small communities,

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and it has been quite the learning experience. It's a

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lot of fun. We have something called a Hooly which

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is typically halfway between Saint Patrick's Day and that's what

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you were at the whole.

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That's what I went. I loved it. I loved the

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holy I got right into it.

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We get about twelve to fifteen hundred people there and

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we bring in Irish bands and Irish music and it's fair.

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It's a great event as long as the weather's good.

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We've had good luck with the weather and we have

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food trucks and that raises money for the parade to

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pay for the parade. It's right around the corner.

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Yes, it is right around the corner. I have to

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make sure it's on my on my my calendar because

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I had such a good time. And I think Saint Patrick,

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who is related to you, I think there was a

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big tall Saint Patrick there.

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Well, Saint Patrick did get sick that day, so we

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had to get a sub and so my husband Tom

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was Saint Patrick.

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I was going to get you look like Tom Gallagan

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to me, not Saint Patrick. Was fun. So, Mary, what

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has been the biggest learning experience out of all of

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this for you?

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I think the biggest learning experience for me is the

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technology and how we do. We have two studios now.

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We just opened a second studio that we ran the

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Capitol campaign for and the thing I'm learning the most

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is live in the studio is a lot different than

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doing it in your home studio with the equipment that

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we have. So I've learned, yes, I've learned all the technology.

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And this is going to sound really funny, but when

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we started out and I did interviews, I was doing

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them off my iPhone with an MP three recorder, and

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now we have all types of equipment and we have

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two studios to do interviews in, so that's been super helpful.

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And the other big learning has been the social media.

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So I didn't know much about social media, but I've

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learned a lot. So I have tools like Canva. I

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do all the scheduling, I go to the live events,

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take a lot of the pictures, and post up about

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the interviews and different things happening around the station because

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we really want to get our exposure out there. And

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we have a great website as well. So learning the

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technology and learning the social media and the graphic design

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behind it has been a lot of fun as well.

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Wow, that's really terrific. I mean that's something that I

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could perhaps learn, but I worked for a technology company

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and they did all that stuff for me. So I'm

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a lot ie. I'm a lot iite. I just use it.

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I don't know how to do anything with it. So

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there we go. So if you were going to think

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about what made you a success in all of this,

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because I would say, by all accounts, you're well known

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in the area. You know, you're sought out the stuff

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that you're doing is such a value add What would

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you say contributed to your personal success.

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I would think finding your passion And I think it

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did take me a while. I tried the background movie thing.

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I tried a couple different charitable organizations, but nothing had music.

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was such a perfect fit. So I think you need

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to find your passion. And a watch out is don't

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get over involved because it'll take over your life.

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It'll take over your life. So how do you keep

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it from taking over your life?

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I'm working.

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That's your current chow.

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It was great fun. Now that we're in the second

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year and going into well we're into eighteen months, we

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know a lot of the events and we know what's required,

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and we have such a larger team now that we're

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able to do that. So I'm able to look around

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and have great people on the radio station. I've met

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so many wonderful people and we all work together and

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we're planning. Actually today we have a strategy planning meeting

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from ten to five for next year, which I think

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will be a lot of fun.

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Yeah, I think that will be a lot of fun.

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And so, like you look around at the people that

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are working with you, and you kind of assign people

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to different things that are going on.

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like our sportscaster, our weatherman, our events people. They're interested

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in doing those things. And then we also have twenty

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three people that are on air and they're interested in

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specific types of music. So it's kind of they select

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what they want to do and we find a spot

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for that.

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I for anybody who's watching this, forgive me, I'm still

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trying to get my camera set up right. We're early

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days into my next at any rate. So, Mary, if

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you were to give any advice to someone who's you know, particularly,

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I look at some people and I say, you know,

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they're in their fifties. They're working in a job. It's

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a great job, they make good money, but it's not

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tapping into their passion. But it's not easy for them

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to walk away from those jobs. Yet. What advice do

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you have for people that are in that kind of

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a niche, Because, as you said, when you retired from

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Jay and Jay, you were fifty seven. I mean, in

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the big picture of life, that's relatively young at the time,

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but it is well, it is as time goes by.

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I mean, that's relatively young to walk away from what

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I would characterize as a very probably lucrative corporate job.

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So what advice did, was it scary? Were you afraid?

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I was? And the second time I was not because

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I was ready. So I was more deliberate. I looked

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at different things that I liked, that I wanted to do,

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and then I looked way in the past to what

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gave me passion in the past. And when I was

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in college, the first thing I did was become a

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DJ on their radio station, and that was one of

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my great memories. So it all fit together because it

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fits with music, fits with community, giving back to nonprofits,

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and then a passion for music throughout my life. So

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I would look for something that fits your passion of

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what you want to do, and then go out and

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not be afraid to go out in the community and

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find places to contribute.

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Well, that's great. How hard was it to find places

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to contribute?

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It's not hard. It's hard in the very beginning to start,

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because you're in a new city in town and people

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don't really know you that well, and you don't know folks,

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so there are a lot of volunteer opportunities that you

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can do. So if you look around your community and

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see what types of volunteers and just talk to all

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types and all kinds of people, because there's so many

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people out there that need and want help, and they'll

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want the skills for sure, and everybody has great skills

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in some part of their life. So I wouldn't be

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afraid to go out and test the waters, you know,

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test a few things and see what you really like.

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Yeah, because I do think I don't know if I

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mentioned this too, I probably did, but you know, we're

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going to live a lot longer and we're going to

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be a lot healthier, and you know, thinking about really

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that passion and what you can give back in this

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I don't want to say last chapter, but this next chapter,

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next chapter, next chapter can be daunting. And many people,

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I think don't realize what still innate skills that they

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have that they can bring to the table and off

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offered to others and bring joy in life. And to

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your point, which I said in the intro, the resiliency.

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Yes, and if you try something and it happens to

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fail or you don't like it, just move on to

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the next right to the next thing and try that.

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Yeah, I tried a few things.

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The background acting was very tiring because you had to

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get up at four in the morning. You might not

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get back to like two in the morning. And I

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always thought, wow, I'm good on TV, but rarely are

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you because background is.

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Background, background, right, right? And do you get a chance

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to meet any of the talent when you were in

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those background things.

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I was Jessica Chesstain's doctor at one point.

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Oh you were who you were?

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What Jessica Chesstain's doctor one of her doctors in a scene?

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Oh that's cool.

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But when you see the final movie, there's a lot

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of cuts from people moving around in different things. But

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it was a fun learn experience. I did about eight

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of them and it was fun. But I did that

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early on when I was fifty seven, fifty nine maybe, Oh,

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such a babe. That such a babe. And it was

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hard then because it's a lot of hours, a lot

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of hours and a lot of sitting and standing around.

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But it was fun. I did learn a lot, so

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I liked it.

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Yeah, And I remember when you did that. I was

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thinking about it until you started telling me about the hours,

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and I was like, I don't think that's good. I

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think I stayed coaching.

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That's it's an hour away at four in the morning.

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It's a lot, right, it's a lot up up there.

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So what's your next after this? Or haven't you thought

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about it?

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Oh? I'm always thinking about it. So my next is, well,

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I love the radio, so I want to continue doing

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the radio. I came down here, and this is going

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to sound a little funny. I love to fish, so

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I came down with a fly fishing rod and I

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have yet to open it down here, wow and take

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it out. That's funny when to have small nexts in

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addition to the radio station, the things that I thought

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I would do that I haven't had the time to do,

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like that nice. Maybe I'll keep working at golf, but

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I'm not sure it's my thing.

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think that's what turned me into the next thing, because

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I'm like, is ain't working out too good? I mean

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it's okay, but I'll never be you know, the pro

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am or whatever. So but yeah, I remember you used

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to like to fish. That's fun. You got to get

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that rat out.

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I will. So I think though people have to be

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deliberate and planning, which is what I did not do

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the first time. So I was far more successful in

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finding new things and making a plan. So I guess

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make a plan.

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Yeah, well that's that's what I was just going to

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ask you. If you at advice, it sounds me want

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to do something that you're passionate about, and to make

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sure you have a plan. And the third thing that

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comes out is keep working at it because it's not

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going to necessarily jump in your lap the first time

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out of the box, right.

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Or maybe the first couple of time. So yeah, looking

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at it and find something you really love.

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You really love. Yeah, that's that's very important. Well, Mary,

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how can people get a hold of you because you've

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got a great story.

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Oh, you can get a hold of me at maryg

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at kpepiirradio dot com. That's my email for the radio station.

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Yeah, and what are you looking for? What could what? What?

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What could they aside from hearing your great story and

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getting you on some of their shows.

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I'll know more about that after our strategy session today.

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Well that'll be very good because that'll be very interesting

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and and you know, I think you'd be a wonderful

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speaker places for people who are thinking about what's next

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for them, and because let's face it, there's a lot

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of fear in leaving a big corporate job and jumping

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into more stuff.

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Definitely is and I would say plan for it. Yeah,

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don't show up the first day in retirement like I didn't, go.

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Ah ah oh and then get oh my paycheck is

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over in the next couple of months, right after I

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get my seffarence. Now what do I do? Right That

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I had the same experience, it was kind of scary. Well, Mary,

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thank you so much. I hope you enjoyed the show.

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I sure enjoyed having you on. And my final question

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for you, is there anything I didn't ask you that

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I should have asked you that you would love to

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share with the audience.

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Have fun? That would be my ending message. Whatever you do,

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have fun with it because fun is important at this

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point of our lives.

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Totally, totally keep having fun hopefully people. Thanks again, Thanks again, Mary,

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and we'll talk to you soon and I know I'll

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run into you and keepe for your area.

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Thank you for having me on, Linda.

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Okay, bye bye bye.